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braided brake lines

Posted: August 31st, 2010, 4:54 pm
by igino
Hi all,

I'm redoing the brakes on my vee. Does anyone run only braided brake lines (no hardline)? It Seems like it would be less of a pain in the neck, but it might feel a bit spongy in the brakes.

Tips? Experience?

Thanks!!!

-Igino

Re: braided brake lines

Posted: August 31st, 2010, 5:04 pm
by problemchild
I have done it .... and could not notice the difference. You are really only talking about the clutch (low pressure) and rear brakes (which don't do much anyway). I guess you need to figure out whether you want to spend $100 instead of $12.

Re: braided brake lines

Posted: August 31st, 2010, 6:11 pm
by Edward Schubert
I have used braided SS lines only for many years on various race cars including stock cars, sprint cars and midgets without any issues. I also know of several Busch Cars (Nationwide Series) which ran these also.

As I close in on finishing my V I plan on doing the same.

Re: braided brake lines

Posted: August 31st, 2010, 10:23 pm
by Matt King
problemchild wrote:I guess you need to figure out whether you want to spend $100 instead of $12.
That's the best reason right there to run hard lines for the long runs and short flex lines at the calipers. Another reason to keep the flex lines short and in the common 12-18 inch range is when you have a problem at the track and need to replace one. Good luck finding a 36-inch braided line on a Saturday afternoon! Been there, done that. Good practice is to set your lines up so one or two common sizes fit all four corners. Then you can carry one or two spares that fit anywhere. It's also a good idea to have a few feet of bulk flex and hardline with the appropriate fittings to make repairs.

Re: braided brake lines

Posted: September 1st, 2010, 8:00 am
by problemchild
The days of making your own lines is long gone. The stock car shops sell pre-made lines that are dirt cheap. As Matt says, try and use common lengths and buy some spares. I think you will have other bigger problems if you need the long clutch and rear brake lines at the track.

Re: braided brake lines

Posted: September 1st, 2010, 1:39 pm
by igino
Hey guys - as always, thanks so much for the pointers!

Re: braided brake lines

Posted: September 1st, 2010, 2:41 pm
by racing stuff
Making braided brake/clutch lines yourself, is (and always has been) such an easy job, I don't know why anyone would buy them in fixed lengths. With one piece of line, the length of the longest used, 2 olives (the brass part under the nut), a couple of wrenches and a good cutting tool, you can fix any line at the track.
Also, you can chose from a wide assortment of available hose ends, something the pre-assembled lines don't offer.
In the overall scope of racing costs, these hoses don't add up to much and rarely need replacement. Unless you crash a lot, in which case, you've got other more expensive issues.
Keith
Averill Racing Stuff,Inc.

Re: braided brake lines

Posted: September 2nd, 2010, 5:55 pm
by igino
Quick follow up question:

What AN size is the brake line? Also, what connectors do I need to attach to the brakes?

Sorry for the nitpicking! Thanks for the pointers!

-Igino

Re: braided brake lines

Posted: September 2nd, 2010, 6:12 pm
by brian
You'll need metric to AN adapters, LRE or the suplliers listed here can help., You can use either -3 or-4.

Re: braided brake lines

Posted: September 2nd, 2010, 9:56 pm
by Edward Schubert
If you are using all braided lines (no hard lines) I would suggest using #3. You will have a firmer pedal.

Re: braided brake lines

Posted: September 6th, 2010, 3:20 pm
by SR Racing
Use #3 lines. We have all the adapters, fittings and lines that you need. We have many of the lines pre-made so there is no assembly required.

Jim