Engine Removal...easy question!

[Captain]

Hi Everyone,

Here is an easy question for everyone. How far apart does the trans need to seperate from the engine to clear the clutch/imput so that it can be removed?

Just trying to plan how I am going to support everything (It is on one of those lifts), and how everything comes apart.

Thanks,
Jim

[hardingfv32-1]

3.5"

Brian

[Dietmar]

Jim:

You might want to share what type of car you have as different cars require different techniques to remove the engine. In some cases on Vintage cars, the pulley needs to be removed first or the entire rear structure needs to be removed.

Also, not sure what: "one of those lifts" refers to. Most situations call for the cars to be on all four wheels, on jack stands, or some even need the support under the frame so that the trans can be tilted.

Dietmar

[Captain]

Thanks!

Looks like I can pull the motor, and leave the trans in place! So Will be able to roll!

I have that homebuilt car from San Fran. that we spoke about a while back.

The lift is a 30" or so mechanical jack, similiar to ones I have seen some people put the winch on.

Don't go anwhere. I'll show......

[Captain]

Lift...

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Clearance, about 5" to the back of the seat there.


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Everything else disconnected!


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[Dietmar]

Jim:

might I suggest that you take off the manifold and carb, and anything else attached to the engine- oil lines, etc and get them out of the way. Will make it much easier.

Dietmar

[Captain]

Will do!

Thanks
Jim

[jmattox]

Be sure to label which oil line goes where. I didn't and enjoyed 2 laps and a tow truck ride at Daytona one time.

John
FV42

[brian]

It appears that this car requires the rear engine mount to be unbolted from the frame and the entire engine and tranny pulled back to clear the roll bar. The Crusader cars are designed like this. The flywheel will clear the input shaft after a 3 inch separation, so the assembly won't have to be moved very far. It looks like you have the suspension pulled already so you're close. No need to disassemble the engine this way. If you are in SF are, feel free to call me, we're in Sacramento.

[brian]

Almost forgot, when you pull the engine the CG on the stand will change drastically so be prepared for the front of the car to drop. Jack stands or a tall box under the front will save you a disaster.

[Captain]

Thanks for the offer! Car is from cali, but currently in New Jersey.

Yep, already have a brace under the front of the car.

As long as I have enough slack in the brake lines so that I don't have to bleed the air out again, I'll be happy. I had a big problem with the initial bleed after a new master last season.

Hoping to pull it Saturday. I'll let everyone know how it goes.

Thanks
Jim

[brian]

Call me and I'll give you some hints on bleeding. Should be a 5 minute job.

[Captain]

Success!

Was able to remove it without removing the trans.

Also came across this (see pic). There is an additional mounting for the trans. It slides the engine/trans to the right side of the car a couple inches. Could this possibly be for a circle track config??

Jim

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[Dietmar]

Jim:

That is exactly what it was designed for. The car ran the FV Association series here in S. California and some of the races were on circle tracks.

Glad it came out easily enough.
Dietmar

[Captain]

Interesting.

With a setup like that, is a different set of axles used as well? To maintain the current wheelbase?

Thanks,
Jim

[Dietmar]

Nope! In addition, the front beam was also moved to the side.

Dietmar

[Captain]

Wow, thats really nice.

The closer and closer I look at this car the more I see how the builder payed attention to every detail. His workman ship was top notch.

Thanks for the help. I'll have to try a circle track one day!
Jim

[sharplikestump]

From the pics, it looked like you had plenty of room to slide the engine forward, but for those cars where it is really tight, you can chop 3/8" off the pilot shaft adding a radius, and make removing/installing easier.
For those who are ready to scream "Illegal", I offer this tip only to autocrossers and dunebuggies.